of launches, you know, about 15 years ago, they launched a rocket over japan. it was a surprise to most of us. that occurred just before i took over as the senior intel guy in korea. and we've been watching these developments very, very closely. this is a big deal. ashleigh, this is a big deal. but the arrangement along the peninsula was established close to 50 years ago, as a result of the cold war, and what we need to do, as victor has indicated, is we've got to change the dynamic here. iran is very much a part of the discussion, but not included in what we know as the six-party talks, which are russia, china, north korea, south korea, the united states, and japan. we need to try to change the dynamics here, so that there isn't this provocation, because what you have along the peninsula is quite stark. you have this incredibly robust and modern south korea and this stark, dark nation directly across the dmz. >> victor, who does have influence over pyongyang? >> well, i think for many years, we believed it was the chinese. the chinese are the primary source of food and economic assistance, e
